Following is an examination
of records pertaining to men named James Poe who are mentioned in various
First is the man called “Major James Poe.” He is believed to be the James Poe listed in government records as a Revolutionary War patriot.
Second is James Poe,
married to Sarah, who died in
We know from the 1793 will of Simon Poe SR that he had a son named James Poe.
We also know from various records that, Stephen Poe, another son of Simon Poe SR, died in 1773 leaving an orphan son named James Poe. This James Poe was raised in the home of William Howard who also took in Hastin and Larkin, also orphans of Stephen Poe. The sons under guardianship of William Howard appear still to be minors (under 21) in 1785. The relationship of William Howard to the Poe family is not known.
Tradition assigns the identify of James Poe, son of Simon Poe SR to the James Poe who
married a woman named Mary. It is said this James Poe moved to
A 1790 Deed shows James Poe “of Anson Co.” selling land next to the Simon Poe, SR sons and daughters’ families. This land seems to be part of a parcel granted to James some years earlier. The deed does not mention a wife so presumably she died before 1790s.
There seems also to be other
men named James Poe in the vicinity of
Hopefully, this examination will shed some light on which James Poe is associated with the various records.
1761 - 1782
James Poe born before 1740 and who appears to be the son of Simon Poe SR (1707 – 1793).
The first mention of a James Poe is one that indicates a man born before 1740
and who is associated with two known sons of Simon Poe SR. Tradition holds that
the man buried in
The original of this record should be examined to see if this “James Poe” should be “Roe” of if the other man should be “Cornelius Poe”. The order transcribed puts Simon, Stephen and James together.
Ordered that Argulus Henderson,
Simon Fooshe, Thomas Shields, John Stuart and
his tythables, William Marsh Junr. Simon Poe Junr. Stephen Poe, James Poe, Joseph Fooshe, Cornelius
Davis, Charles Clanton, Benjamin Clanton, Robert Colley, Samuel Marsh,
William McDaniel? (sic) and his Tythables, Zachariah Martin Junr.
Robert Martin, Thomas North, John Books, John Crow, John Cullis,
John Webster and Charles Webster do work
on the road from
Mary, daughter of Simon Poe, SR married a
23 November 1772
Nimrod Burk (Burc) to Prettyman Berry - 20 pds. 100 a. on the East side of Beaver Dam Creek - joins Peter Sullinger
Wit: James Poe Nimrod (X) Burc
John Hand Sarah (X) Burc
NOTE: The James Poe in the next record was well enough established to be “appointed
Constable.” If he was born in 1840 and is the man of the 1761 record above, he
would be in his thirties, which seems more appropriate for this position that
if he were 23 or 24 as tradition makes the age of the James Poe of Anson Co, NC
It is important to note that these “associations” can be misleading as Zachariah Harman was a county official at various points, and we see James Poe was appointed constable the day before this estate record. Any administrator would have given bond to Harman and Poe if they were both officials on this day.
It is possible these records represent more than one James Poe, but doubtful to my reading. They seem to identify James Poe, son of Simon Poe SR and brother of Stephen Poe and Simon Poe JR.
10 May 1774
James Poe appointed Constable he having given Benjamin Watts Security.
11 May 1774
Administration on the Estate of Thomas Watts, dec'd., granted to Benjamin Watts., he having given bond with Zachariah Harman & James Poe in 500 pounds.
Will of Stephen Poe, dec'd proved by James Poe. NC, Chatham Co. Executors: Hannah Poe, William Howard & Robert Rutherford,.
NOTE: this record is included to show that John Berry
was a close neighbor to the Simon Poe SR family and perhaps married to Simon
Poe SR’s daughter (Mary Poe did marry a
Order'd that the following hands be added to work the road whereof Richard Straughn* is overseer Viz: Hannah Poe, John Berry, Pretteman Berry, John Morton, Joseph Stewart, Simon Fooshe, Charles Morgan, Benjamin Watts, William Sanders & William Dillard.
James Poe who lives on Harland’s Creek
NOTE: This man lives in a different
John Poe Sr be appt overseer of the road from Harlands Creek to Evan's Mill & that the following hands work thereon, Viz: his own hands, James Poe's, Thomas Griffin's, John Griffens, William Haley's, Richard Haley's, Benj. Harris', Aaron Evan's, the hands living on Henry Bagley's plantation, & Charles Harrington's.
Simon Poe again seeming to be the son of Simon Poe, SR
17th July, 1777
Chatham County Court Records in
To all People to Whome the
presents shall come, know ye that Stephen Herndon and Sophia Herndon my wife and administratricks
to the Estate of Simon Poe Deceased of Chatham County for and in
consideration of the Sum of Two Hundred Pounds Current Money to us in hand paid
by Richd. Kennon of the
Test. James Poe
Stephen Herndon (his mark)
James Poe (born around 1770) son of Stephen Poe (d. 1773)
pg. 132 -
WILLIAM HOWARD appointed Guardian to HASTIN POE, LARKIN POE and JAMES POE, he giving bond with ROB'T RUTHERFORD, Esq. in the amount of 1000 pounds each.
16 February 1778
William Howard, “gaudn” of James Poe orphan of Stephen Poe decd, enters 450 ac; border: Berry’s line on Haw R., runs up the river to the mouth of Brooks Cr, up the “break” opposite James Herndon’s line, up his line W to Poe’s line, along Poe’s line to Berry’s line & along Berry’s line to the beginning; James William caveated; proceedings returned to May Court; discontinued by “ J W” ; warrant issued to “W H” Jul. 25.
Simon Poe again seeming to be the son of Simon Poe, SR. James Massey was married to daughter of Simon Poe, SR. We also saw William Petty in the 1761 record above. Another daughter of Simon Poe SR was married to a George.
May 14, 1778
William Petty enters 640 ac on Green Br, Meadow Br, & Petty's Br; border: Jer. George's corner, runs along said George's line to Jas Stewart's corner, along Stewart's lIne to Petty's corner, along Petty's line to Meadow Br, up said branch to the foot of "the" pine hill to (James Poe) Jas Poe's Br, to "his" line formerly Mullis's, N to the corner of said line, W to "the" road, & joins (James Massey) Jas Massey and then down [blank] to beginning; warrant issued Aug. 15; grant delivered.
This must be Simon Poe SR, and James his son. The December record mentions William Poe, another son of Simon Poe SR mentioned in the 1793 will.
Jul. 13, 1778 James Poe enters 50 ac on Crooked Cr; border: Simon Poe, Charles Stewart, & Alexr Clark; warrant issued Oct. 19; grant delivered.
December 29, 1778
James Massey enters 600 ac on W side of Haw R; border: James Poe's corner, runs "round by" Chas Stewart, Geo Dismuck (George Dismukes), Richard Kennon, & Wm Poe; (William Poe); Wm Howard (William Howard) caveated; Alexander Clark caveated; proceedIngs returned to May Court: verdict in favor of Clark; no warrant issued money returned to Massey
p. 186 –
Registered 1 November 1779 – State of North Carolina to James Poe – 50 sh. for every 100 a. – 25 a. on the Crooked Branch – joins Simon Poe’s line, Clarks corner and Stewarts line.
James Poe, son of Stephen Poe, son of Simon Poe, SR could not be born too long before 1773 when Stephen Poe died..
30 March 1780
This must be James Poe, son of Simon SR
David Poe is the son of Simon Poe JR who died in 1773. David must be over 21 in this record. William Poe JR is probably the son of the William Poe SR mentioned, and he must be James Poe’s brother, sons of Simon Poe SR. Hannah Poe is of course the widow of Stephen Poe (d. 1773). “Road Orders” were normally issued in regard to people who lived adjacent to each other so all sections of the road cold be maintained. All these families were already, or will soon, marry a Poe (not sure about Gilliam and Thomas).
26 May 1782
Pg. 14A. The
Following hands appointed to work on the Road under Richard Strawn
(Viz.) Prettyman Berry, David Poe, John Gilliam, John Thomas,
1783 - 1800
James Poe (SR) born c. 1740, son of Simon Poe, SR
James Poe (JR) his son, born c. 1761
If James Poe was born in 1740 (as the 1761 records
implies), then he could have this grown son, James Poe JR, who would just now
be starting a family. This may be the nature of the following set of
transactions -- to provide James Poe JR a parcel of land. The relationship of
Benjamin Watts to the Poe and
A bit later the names James Poe and John Berry appear
12 November 1783
A Deed from John Stewart to James Williams proved by the Oath of James Massey.
A Deed from Benjamin Watts and Wife to James Poe Jr. proved by the Oath of John Berry, Jr.
A Deed from the Same to the Same proved by the Oath of the Same.
from Benjamin Watts to John.
Pg. 51B - Deed from James Poe to John Berry ack'd.
James Poe of
Few records identify this James Poe.
10 May 1784 –
Cornaless (later spelled Carneless) Boyel, Yeoman to William Toode, Tanar – 30 pds. – 150 a. on the Waters of Rocky River (Rockey) on the East side – joins James McCarroll – it being a tract of land granted to Corneleas Boyel by this present Authority bearing date the 31st March 1780.
Sol. Stuart Corneles (c) Boyel
James Poe Mary (o) Boyel
James Poe, son of Simon Poe SR
NOTE: The connection to Benjamin Watts and the Cashatts Creek lands seems to confirm this.
11 August 1784
James Poe appointed Overseer of the road from Cashatts Creek to Luttrell’s Branch
James Poe son of Simon Poe SR (or possibly his son James)
We saw Straughan and Neal as well as Dismukes above in connection to this James Poe.
30 November 1784
Account of Sales of Estate of Younger Neal
Christopher Straughn - 2 hides leather
James Poe - 2 sides leather
Zach. Harman - 1 bed
Richard Staughn 2 head of hoggs
George Dismukes - 1 -------
James Poe of the Simon Poe SR family (either James Poe SR or James Poe JR. )
16 February 1785
In the Suit Nathan Bryant against Nicholas Nall the following Jury Sworn Viz – William Moody, William Poe, Vincent Self, Richard Straughan (Strawan), Joel Patterson, Richard Straughan (Strawan), Thomas Stone, Thomas Lassiter, Parish Self, Robert Thompson, James Poe and James Willitt.
James Poe who signed by MARK.
This man is in the area of other Simon Poe SR family. There can
be little doubt these are “of” the Simon Poe SR family. The fact
that this James Poe signs by mark is what stands out, this and the mention of
Robert Poe who is not mentioned in very many records. He does however seem to
be of the Simon Poe Sr family (but maybe nephews). But he may be a grandson or
even a son of the younger Samuel Poe of
6 August 1785 – Lewis Braswell to Robert Poe – 30 pds. Specie 100 a. on Wilkinsons Creek – joins Peter Bray, Gideon Kirksey** and Robert Poes own corner.
Wit David Williams Lewis Brassell
James Poe (X) Rebecker (X) Brassell
James Poe son of Stephen Poe == although this record (or transcription) is confused.
One presumes this means all the children, so James Poe must be a minor still.
23 September 1785 – State of North Carolina to George Dismukes – 50 sh. for every 100 a. – 39 a. on the Waters of Haw River – joins a Branch in his Own line and a conditional line with William Howard Guardian to James Poes* children, crosses Morgans Creek.
W. Williams Sec Rd. Caswell
This is the moment when the historical record raises a huge question about the identity of this James Poe.
James Poe with wife name Mary
Part of the problem here is identifying the location of “Cain
Creek” or as it is spelled a few times, “Cane Creek.” The old map I scanned at the link below shows
that “Cain Creek” was on the Haw River near
Note these Caswell County, NC records before reading on. Perhaps, the Culpeper and Caroline County Poe families met up at this point either by chance or design.
Cain Creek mentioned in
16 July 1784
Archibald Murphy of CC to Reubin Taylor of same, for 50 lbs, 150 A on Cain & Wynn Creeks adj John Warren, Reubin Taylor, James Hamlett (Hamblett). 16 July 1784. Wit: Litt Stokes, Will Williams, James Hamlett
Country Line Creek is
on the far north of
Deed Book L
10 March 1786.
Rebecca Berry of CC to son John Berry, for love & affection, 211 A on Toms Cr and Country Line Cr adj Hart old line, being part of tract granted to her. Wit: Robert Mitchell, James Poe
Thomas SIMMONS 1794 page 97
Book C. Acct. estate of Thomas Simmons, decd. Accounts paid to . . . . James Poe. ..
NOTE: This is the first time we see the name Mary Poe in
association. Since “JR” is not used here, it probably refers to James Poe, son
of Simon Poe SR, but that is open to question. It could be James Poe JUNIOR.
However, it appears that James is divesting of his
James Poe to Christopher Hornaday – 6 pd. Specie (no a. given) on the Head of the South fork of Cain Creek – being a tract of land granted to the sd. James Poe by this present authority dated 3 September 1787
John Beray (
John (X) Dowdey Mary (X) Poe
3 September 1787
James Poe, Planter to Christopher Hornaday, Planter – 50 pds. Specie - `175 a. on the South side of Cain Creek – joins his own line and James Poe’s other land – it being a tract of land granted to the sd. James Poe by this present authority dated 3 September 1787
John (X) Dowdy Mary (X) Poe
that the 1790 census for
Only one James Poe mentioned. --- probably the son of James Poe son of Simon Poe SR. His identity noted above.
James Poe (6) 1m>16, 1m<16, 4 f
This seems to be the James Poe who signs by Mark. Again, Wilkersons Creek. None of these “neighbors” can easily be associated with the Simon Poe SR family.
William Kirkcey appointed overseer of the Road from Morgans old Mill to Wilkersons Creek and the following Hands work under him, To Wit, James Powell, Wm. Powell, Roling Man, Thomas Ledbetter, Ephraim Ledbetter, Gidion Kirkcey, James Poe, David Williams, John Pearson. Absolam Smith, John Edwards, John Trip, Wm. Brewer. Oliver Brewer, Wm. Edwards, John Kirkcey. Geo. Blalock. Sam Hurns, Geo. Mosley.
Back to James Poe, son of James Poe, son of Simon Poe SR
This deed shows that James Poe was a resident of
by February 4, 1790 Anson County, NC
4 February 1790 Image of this Deed
D-639 This indenture made this Eight day of February in the year of Our Lord on Thousand Seven hundred and Ninety Between James Poe of the County of (crossed ouf Chatham) Anson of State of North Carolina of the one part and Robert Thompson of the County of Chatham of State aforesaid of the this part Witnesseth [ ] in consideration of the sum of Twenty pounds in hand paid by the said Robert Thompson the receipt whereof I do hereby acknowledge have Bargained Lots assigned of confirm unto him the said Robert Thomson his heirs all that Tracts or Parcel of Land Situation by [ ] in the aforesaid County of Chatham (formerly part of the County of Orange) containing Twenty-four acres more or less Beginning at a post oak formerly by Simon Poe's line but how Robert Thompson's running West fort two pole to a post oad in Elijah Foshee's line. Thence South said Foshee's line ninety two and half poles to a post and oak said Foshee's Corner thence NOrth along said Simon Poe's late line to the place of Beginning Together with all woods [ ] Mines [ ] appeurtenances and reversions remainder of ... thereunto beloinging to the Esate right Title in Trust property claims domain whatsoerv the said James Poe
To have to hold the said Trand or pacel of land with every apurtenance thereunto beloning unto him the said Robert Thompson his heirs assigns forever of the said James Poe have hereunto set my hand and Seal the day of year above Written
Signed sealed and delivered
in the presence of
Richard Staughan (his mark James Poe (signature)
the written deed was duly proved in Open Count by the Oath of Richard Straughan on Motion ordered to be Registered
test: John Ramsey C.C.
Since this James Poe lives in the Simon Poe SR family area, and older James already is in Anson Co, this probably is his son identified earlier.
14 February 1791 session
Ford was on the
appointed overseer of the Road in the Room of James Gunter from the Red
field foard on
Mr. Thomas Patterson vs James Poe - Tresspass. The following Jury Sworn, to wit, James Patterson, John Petty, Spencer Stewart, William Hackney. John Minter, Mathew Ramsey. Charles Mash. James Scurlock. John Pike, Charles Morgan. Thomas Stone, Edward Bray, Who say they find for the Defendant. Pltf, moves for a new trial.
Hosea Heathcock appointed
overseer of the Road in Room of James Poe from the Red field foard on
No. 5 - Thomas Patterson vs James Poe Tresspass - plea Gen'l issue justification.
of Simon Poe SR Sale
Top of the list
Robert Thompson bought a negro woman "Fan" and 5 hogsheads
James Massey bought negroes Jesse, and Daniel and a "lot" of corn
William Poebought negro Moses and a "lot" of flax
Stephen Poe 4 Ceers [ have no idea what these are, possibly meant "shears"], 2 mugs and tumbler, 1 tray, 2 "lots" of corn and 3 "lots" of tobacco.
William Poe, Jr.& bell, Flatt irons, 1 Rundlet, 3 pewter basons
John Morton bought 1 Heiffer, 2 Hogs,
James Poe bought 1 Heiffer
Nathan Stedman 1 fatt shoot (shoat?) bought 4 Hogs, 2 axes, 1 Bell, 2 small books, Sundries, 1 "lott' of sope (soap)
We find a James Poe in
records in 1793. Never is a wife mentioned, fitting the 1790 Anson County deed. Yet most Anson records were destroyed. So we may not have could picture. Chatham
(although actual entry is undated it is surrounded by 1793)
1505 (78) (no date) James Poe (Powe) enters 100 ac on Gum Log Br. of Lanes Cr.
A Benjamin Watts is in
by 1794, but in a very distant area form the Poe groups. Swans Branch is far west of Wadsboro. Anson County
James Poe settled Gums Branch of
. According to the U.S. Census Bureau Mapping and Cartographic Resources both Lanes Creek and Gum Log Branch are shown in present day Union County, southwest of Charlotte and close to the South Carolina border. This location makes sense with other records and also with the fact that John Poe born in 1795 married Sarah Threet of Lanes Creek . John Poe was likely a son of James Poe of South Carolina Anson County( ). Union County
See images: Gum Log Branch Lanes Creek runs from
Anson Countyinto . Union County Union Countywas formed in 1842 from Anson and Mecklenburg.
7 March 1794 Benjamin Watts (write over) enters 100 ac on S side of Brown Cr on N prong of Swans Br: border: Edward Tatum; includes the Muddy Spring.
13 May 1794
Daniel Ross enters 150 ac on Gum Log Br of Lanes Cr: border: John Deason, James Poe (Janus) & Edward Castly.
19 July 1794
Michael Shannon enters 100 ac on waters of Lanes Cr and Lower Cowpen Br of Vicars Br: between William Shepherd and James Poe
8 December 1794
Gov. Richard Dobbs Spaight (New Bern, NC) to James Poe; grant #1327 for pounds 0.30 per 100 ac sold 100 ac on Gum log Br of Lanes Cr; border: begins at a red oak on "the" bank of the branch "just below" John Deason's beginning (signed) Richd Dobbs Spaight & J. Glasgow, secretary; book E p. 419
10 July 1797
Gov. Samuel Ashe (Raleigh, NC) to Michael Shannon; grant #1295; for pounds 0.30 per 100 ac sold 100 ac on waters of Lanes Cr and on Little Cowpen fork of Vicars Br; border: begins at James Poe's corner post road; warrant dated Nov. 4, 1794 (signed) Saml Ashe & J. Glasgow, Secretary; book E p.254
Not clear which James Poe this could be below, but he is in a list with elder members of Simon Poe SR’s family
1801 Estate Accounts for William Poe (deceased) lists these:
Records Book A page from 53 to 56
Along margin of last page to the left of signatures for James Taylor and James Howard is written: Taylor & James Howard - Administrators of William Poe, deceased
Among those paid:
James Masey (son-in-law of Simon Poe, Sr)
Mary George (Mary Straughan, daughter of Richard Straughan and Lucy Poe, daughter of Simon Poe, Sr. Her husband's first name is not known to me)
Emsley George's note, not recovered & costs against the administers For costs, administrators (or?) Mary George
Christopher Struaghan's not, not recovered.
Simon Poe's note to William Howard (next word looks quite like whiskey) was inventoried by the Administrators & not recorded
Richard Straughan Sr
William Scurlock for (can't make out) amt. forwarded.
James Poe 26/6 . . . & costs
By 1800, we find two sets of James Poe in North Caroline. One set in
Chatham County, and one in . Anson County
The 1810 Census for Guilford County list a James Poe that DNA suggests is an elder son of Simon Poe JR.
2 males under 10, 1 male 10/15; 1 male over 46
2 females under 10, 1 female 10/15; 1 female over 46
Likely the James Poe (b. c. 1755) , son of James Poe, son of Simon Poe JR noted above
2 males under 10
1 male 26-44
2 females under 10
1 female 10-15
1 female 26-44
This younger James may be yet another generation of James Poe, but not enough research yet to identify him
1 male under 10
1 male 10-15
1 male 16-25
3 females under 10
1 female 16-25
James Poe SR (b.c. 1740) son of Simon Poe SR.
NOTE: These are adjacent, James Powe, SR then James Poe JR
Likely James Poe, son of Simon Poe SR
James Powe, Sr
1 male under 10
1 male under 10
1 male 10-15
1 male over 45
1 female under 10
1 female 10-15
1 female over 45
James Powe, Jr
Likely James Poe, son of Stephen Poe, son of Simon Poe SR. This would
also fit “tradition” saying that James’ brother Stephen’s sons joined James Poe
in the move to
1 male under 10
1 male under 10
1 male 16-25
1 female 16-25