John Poe
(1785 Anson
County, North Carolina - September 10, 1859 Saline County Arkansas)
Birth date as stated on
replaced tombstone (presumably stated on the original. According to census
records, he may have been born earlier)
Buried at Poe Cemetery, near Sheridan, Grant
County, Arkansas (Grant was formerly part of Saline County)
Estate: http://www.poegen.net/Estates/JohnPoe1859
Notes: http://www.poegen.net/Images/JohnPoeEvidence01.jpg
Notes: http://www.poegen.net/Images/JohnPoeEvidence02.jpg
Wife:
Sarah
Threet
(born 1795 probably South Carolina on border of North Carolina along the Pee
Dee River - 1861 Poe Cemetery, near Sheridan, Grant County, Arkansas
John
and Sarah likely married in Anson County, North Carolina
Sarah's
exact heritage has been difficult to ascertain. She is clearly related to the Threets listed on this page. The name Threet appears in
Arkansas near John and Sarah's residence in Saline (now Grant) County. Variant
spellings include Thweat, Threat ant Threatt.
There
were Threets in SC in 1800 and 1810. Pretty sure John
Poe met Sarah Threet along the Peedee River, Gum
Springs Branch, Lane’s Creek. Anson Country NC borders the Peedee
River section of SC.
Waterways in what is now Union County, North Carolina
http://www.poegen.net/Studies/JohnPoe1859/UnionCountyWaterways.pdf
Census
records:
1820
Anson County, NC
Evin Threat, 62
Nancy
Threat, 62
1830
Anson County, NC
Evans
Threat
1840
Anson County, NC
Frederick
Threatt 60
Sarah
Threatt 79
Thomas
Threatt 80
Tuscaloosa County, Alabama
1830
Census
John Poe
1
male under 5 (Oliver Perry Poe b. 1826)
1
male 5/10 (John W. Poe b. 1823)
1
male 10/15 (Thomas Poe b. 1819)
1
male 50/60 (John Poe b. 1785. The birth date is according to
tombstone. This census makes a case he was born earlier).
Males
not listed: William Threet Poe b. 1817
Alfred Poe b. 1831
1
female under 5 (Serepta Poe b. 1830)
1
female 5/10 (Mary Jane Poe b. 1827)
1
female 10/15 (Sarah E. Poe b. 1819
1
female 15/20 (Elizabeth Poe b. 1816)
1
female 40/50 (Sarah Threet b. 1795)
Slaves of John Poe and his sons
http://www.poegen.net/Estates/ThomasPoe1861
Evidence indicating
that John Poe was a son of James Poe
The
1790 census for Chatham County (from which Anson County was formed), shows the
presence of a male under sixteen. John Poe would have been five years old.
There were three females and a wife. No other James Poe appears in the 1790
census who could be James Poe, the son mentioned in the will of Simon Poe, Sr
three years later. The will indicates that the son, James, had already received
his share of the estate.
http://www.poegen.net/Census/NC/NCchathamCo1790jamesJRsrTerryRobtPoe.jpg
James
Poe was in Anson County, North Carolina by 1790, when he deeded land to
brother-in-law Robert Thompson.
Deed
recorded in Chatham County
4
February 1790 Image
of this Deed
D-639
This indenture made this Eight day of February in the year of Our Lord on
Thousand Seven hundred and Ninety Between James Poe of the
County
of (crossed out Chatham) Anson of State of North Carolina of the one part and
Robert Thompson of the County of Chatham
The
only Poe families listed in Anson County in the 1820 census are James Poe, John
Poe and Simon Poe. This John Poe and Simon Poe are almost certainly sons of
James Poe.
Anson
County records
http://www.poegen.net/NC/Anson
Anson County Deeds
Typ Deed
Ref S-69
Dat 11 Apr 1804
Rec April 1818
Frm John Hough, Chesterfield
Precinct SC
To William Chester
Con $100
Re 100 acres on Lanes Creek granted Joseph Stewart 9
Mar 1799
Wit William Ross, David
Wallace
Adj James Poe,
Page
loc 7296 -17520 F127 L0
P255
pt Spanish oak James
Poe's crnr
ln N22E; 15c75l; with
Poe's line
pt his crnr red oak
ln N40W; 10c; with his
other line
pt stale 3 blk jacks ptrs
ln N50E; 15c;
pt red oak
ln S67E; 16c50l;
pt stake in Page's line
ln S35E; 17c50l;
pt stake among 3 red oaks
ln S50W; 54c;
pt James Poe's line
ln ;; with Poe's line
to beg
Anson County Deeds
Typ Deed
Ref S-214
Dat 2 Oct 1818
Rec Oct 1818
Frm William Ross
To Even Threatt
Con $200
Re 100 acres on waters Lanes Creek; Joel Renfrow's widow Sary's part; incl plantation where Ross now lives
Wit John Poe,
Julius Holley
Adj Jesse Hasty,
Michael Costley, William Ross's new entry
loc 8320 -15616 F127 L0
P255
pt
ln ;; Jesse Hasty
ln ;; Michael Costley's
heirs
ln ;; Ross's new entry
Typ Deed
Ref S-192
Dat 2 Oct 1818
Rec Oct 1818
Frm Stephen Hasty
To Evan Threat
Con $5.00
Re his claim to Sary Renfrow's dower rights to 100 acres where William Ross
lives
Wit John Poe,
Julius Holly
loc
1136 -320 F127 L0 P255
NOTE: 1783 Chatham Co. Pg. 51A
A Deed from Benjamin Watts and Wife to James
Poe, Jr. proved by the Oath of John
Berry, Jr.
The James Poe, JR in the deed above had to be born prior
to 1762. HOWEVER, the James Poe JR in this 1800 census is at most 26 years
old (or born c. 1773) according to the
notations.
The James Poe SR in this 1800 record seems to be Maj.
James Poe. But the James Poe, JR is too young to be the same one as in the
record from 1783. However, it does fit pretty well with the age of James Poe,
orphan son of Stephen Poe, brother of Major James Poe.
16
February 1778 William Howard, “gaudn” of James Poe orphan of Stephen Poe decd, enters 450 ac; border: Berry’s line on Haw R., runs up
the river to the mouth of Brooks Cr, up the “break” opposite James Herndon’s line, up his line W to
Poe’s line, along Poe’s line to Berry’s
line & along Berry’s line to the beginning; James William caveated;
proceedings returned to May Court; discontinued by “ J W” ; warrant issued to
“W H” Jul. 25.
These are adjacent, James Powe,
SR then James Poe JR
James Powe, Sr
1 male under 10
1 male under 10
1 male 10-15
1 male
over 45
1 female under 10
1 female 10-15
1 female over 45
James Powe, Jr
1 male under 10
1 male under 10
1 male 16-26 – this census record may
identify James Poe, orphan of Capt. Stephen Poe (d. 1773) . Note in the 1820
census, the only James Poe listed still is not over 26, but has a woman in the
household over 45. The Melton family was close to my John Poe (1785-1859)
family. His son, William Threet Poe traveled from Arkansas to Alabama in 1775
to marry as this third wife, Mary H. Melton, daughter of Elihu Melton. All we
can do is base our charts on the preponderance of evidence.
1 female 16-26
Wiat Powe
1 male 26-44
1 female 16-25
James McMillan
1810 Census (Where is Wiatt????)
Note
McMillan (McMillion) are neighbors and there were several marriages with Poe.
Alabama
Records ---- Volume II. Compiled by Kathleen Paul Jones and Pauline Johns Gandrud
p.60
Hardy Harten,
of Anson County, N.C. dated 19 Sept. 1838 – codicil dated 21 Sept. 1838 –
probated Apr. Session 1839. Book 1 p. 129. Wife (not named); daughter Sally
Holly; son John; Green Harten; Littleton Harten at his mother’s death; daughter Mary Janes; dau Martha Poe; son Hardy W. Harton;
Elizabeth A. Harten at her grandmother’s death, to be
kept by John Harten; grandson, the son of my son
James Harten, namely James H. Harten.
Wit: Thomas L. Marsh, Obed. H. Sinclair, Robert L. Connell
NOTE: Martha Poe was as
daughter of Simon B. Poe, who I believed to be a son Simon Poe b. 1782
James Poe
1 male 16-25 --- (my John Poe was born in 1785. This fits exactly.)
1 male over 44
1 female 16-25
1 female over 44
James Poe – still looks like the
James Poe, orphan of Stephen Poe. Family lore does state that Stephen’s sons
went to Alabama with his brother James Poe’s family.
4 males under 10
1 male 26-44
1 female under 10
1 female 10-16
1 female 26-44
Thomas Powe
1 male 16-25
1 female under 10
1 female 16-25
Note:
Fits Thomas Poe 1840 Census, Fayette County, Alabama Free White Male 50-60
Simon Powe
1 male 16-25
1 male 26-44 – Simon Poe believed to be John Poe and Thomas Poe’s
brother was born in 1782
3 female under 10
1 female 16-25
1 female 26-44
Note:
Fits Simon Poe 1840 Census, Fayette County, Alabama Free White Male 50-60 -- 2 men of this age.
1820 Anson County Census
(Where
is Wiatt Poe?
The
Thomas Poe family moved to Fayette County, Alabama and then to West Point,
White County, Arkansas)
James Poe
1 male under 10 6 person engaged in Agriculture.
2 males 10-15
2 males 16-17
1 male over 45
1 female under 10
1 female 10-15
1 female over 45
3 males under 10 1 female slave under
15
1 male 10-15 3 persons engaged in
agriculture
1 male 26-44
1 female under 10
1 female 26-44
2 males 16-25
1 male 26-44
1 males over 44
1 female under 10
2 female 10-15
1 female 16-25
1 female 26-44
William Poe (middle
initial or name hard to read. Strange “P” also. Looks lie “L” but it is
alphabetically in the P section)
1 male under 10
1 male 26-44
2 female under 10
1 female 18-25
8375. October 3, 1821
John Poe (Anson
Co) to William Anderson (same); for $100 sold 100 ac on Gum
Log Br waters of Lanes Cr., border: begins at a
black oak near the branch. (signed) John Poe,
(witness) Simon Poe & William
Ross; wit. oath July 1825 by William Ross; book V page 143.
The families moved to
Fayette County, Alabama in the early 1820s. Poe cannot be found in Anson Co
after the move. The Alabama records can be confusing because at least three
distinct (but probably distantly related) Poe families can be found in the same
area in the 1820s and 1830s. The first was the George Poe family, who was there
by 1814. His son, Stephen Poe moved to Choctaw Co, MS but possibly other sons
remained in Fayette County. Also the family of Calvin Poe, who married Mary
“Polly” Willingham was there by the 1820s. Calvin is hard to place but his
children lived side by side with the James Poe family group.
1830
Fayette County Census (preliminary)
George Poe* 1 male 5/10
4 males 10/15
1 male 50/60
1 female 10/15
1 female 40/50
on
same page as Griffin and Willingham (who married with Poe in Fayette Co)
Stephen Poe* 2
males under 5
1 male 5/10
2 male 10/15
1
male 30/40
1
male 40/50
1
female 5/10
1
female 30/40
* This may be the George and Stephen listed in the 1840 Choctaw
County, Mississippi census. Birth dates of the Choctaw Stephen’s children
indicate the family moved from Alabama about 1832. Note that neither name is
listed in the 1840 census for Alabama
John Poe
1 male 5/10
1 male 20/30
3 females under 5
1 females 20/30
Simon Poe
1 males 40/50
1 female 15/20
1 female 50/60 (Margaret McMillan was
born in 1783)
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1830s Land Grants John Dowdy received grants for 40, 40, 40, 80, 80, and 80
acres between 1834 and 1839. Sec 13, Township 18S. Range 11W Original
Landholders
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